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The single deck was dealt face-down and double deck was dealt face-up with about 50% penetration for both games. Counting face-down wasn't as bad as I expected because at some point or another everyone does have to show their cards. It is not pitch, however, as it's dealt from shoe and so you can't touch cards. If you want the true pitch where you can use your poker face as you plop down a BJ -V/P has the $50 table 2 deck (H17) as always. Anything below $50 other than Freebet is crummy 6:5, but at the $50 dollar level the 2 deck is not a bad game there. Best count system for 2 deck, 4 deck, 6 deck, 8 deck? If this is your first visit to the Blackjack Forum, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You will have to r e g i s t e r (free) before you can post: click the r e g i s t e r link to proceed.

Be sure you know the correct Blackjack etiquette for holding your cards and signaling your playing decision to the dealer when playing in a double-deck pitch game. Some double-deck games in land-based casinos pay only 6 to 5, instead of 3 to 2, for a winning blackjack. How to Play Blackjack. Blackjack at North Star is played with two or five decks of cards. In double deck games, the dealer holds the cards and deals them out. In multi-deck games, the cards are dealt out of a tray-like box called a 'shoe.' In hand held games, the cards are dealt face down, and the player is allowed to pick up his cards.

Found this 2 deck blackjack game but they only deal out one deck then reshuffle. Bets are $25 min to $300 max. Is it even worth it to count?
edit for more info: It's not single deck. It's double deck but they only deal out 1 deck. So penetration is one deck. double on any two cards but aces only one card allowed(no resplit of aces), Sur allowed, Hit soft 17.

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Found this 2 deck blackjack game but they only deal out one deck then reshuffle. Bets are $25 min to $300 max. Is it even worth it to count?

I will venture a guess that you're actually playing single deck BJ, and from what I've read, single deck should be more favorable than DD, and easier to count. But there are some missing considerations to evaluate the 'DD BJ' game you found:
- Any estimate on PEN?

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- Is it DAS or nDAS?
- SURR?
- RSA?
- Any idea of the HEAT?
- Is it S17 or H17?
If you can provide these conditions, I'll try another evaluation. I'm sure the more experienced card-counters will jump on it right away.
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The OP already told us the Penetration which is one deck dealt out (50%) for this Double Deck game. What are the exact rules anyways? That way you can know the House Edge and how to correctly play against it. Does dealer Hit or must they Stand on soft 17? May we double on any two cards or only allowed to double on say 9,10, and 11. Can we Surrender our hand?
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DD, H17, DAS, DA2, heads up, no RSA, no LS -- using Zen count, it's worth $72/hour, spreading 1x25 to 1x300. Spreading 2x25 to 2x300 it's $160/hour. Assumes 100 HPH. N0 is 22k and SCORE is thus 45.
If I could do 2x25 to 2x300, and could play it all day, I'd play it all day. Heads up, of course.
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I will venture a guess that you're actually playing single deck BJ, and from what I've read, single deck should be more favorable than DD, and easier to count. But there are some missing considerations to evaluate the 'DD BJ' game you found:
- Any estimate on PEN?
- Is it DAS or nDAS?
- SURR?
- RSA?
- Any idea of the HEAT?
- Is it S17 or H17?
If you can provide these conditions, I'll try another evaluation. I'm sure the more experienced card-counters will jump on it right away.


It's not single deck. It's double deck but they only deal out 1 deck. So penetration is one deck. double on any two cards but aces only one card allowed(no resplit of aces), Sur allowed, Hit soft 17.Romes

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Okay rules (under .5%) not so good penetration, but most importantly is how is the heat? This is going to be your #1 issues. That's an 'okay' game to count, but you'd need to spread at least $25-$200 (the 'friendly' 1-8), but most DD games are usually watched fairly closely and followed up with heat. Heat is by far the #1 playing condition I look for. Even with 50% PEN, I'd play the hell out of this game if it had zero heat.
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I'm a new counter. I've been backed off once at a different casino. I'm pretty sure it's being watched closely as that's the only non asm bj at the casino. I'm not even sure what to look for.
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I'm a new counter. I've been backed off once at a different casino. I'm pretty sure it's being watched closely as that's the only non asm bj at the casino. I'm not even sure what to look for.

How new are you? Being backed off doesn't always mean you have a winning game, just that the casino noticed you changing your bets. When you say you're not sure what to look for, do you mean in a game to count?
1) Heat
2) PEN
3) Rules (das, da2, surrender, h17/s17/, etc, etc, etc)
4) Limits (rare but some casinos have weird limits)
*this is just for basic card counting
I talk about how to find decent games/rules/etc in my 3 articles on this site.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.
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Two Deck Pitch Blackjack

How new are you? Being backed off doesn't always mean you have a winning game, just that the casino noticed you changing your bets. When you say you're not sure what to look for, do you mean in a game to count?
1) Heat
2) PEN
3) Rules (das, da2, surrender, h17/s17/, etc, etc, etc)
4) Limits (rare but some casinos have weird limits)
*this is just for basic card counting
I talk about how to find decent games/rules/etc in my 3 articles on this site.


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#1 has to be the hardest to gauge. Especially for newbies. There's the saying, 'there is no heat, until there's heat!'
DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
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#1 has to be the hardest to gauge. Especially for newbies. There's the saying, 'there is no heat, until there's heat!'

Agreed entirely. Playing seems to be the best way (other than word of mouth) to gauge the heat level of a shop. That's why some pro's just blast away everywhere, because when they come across the places that don't care, then it's a camp fest.
Playing it correctly means you've already won.